Also Thursday, the Indiana Department of Correction said Richard Allen, who has been charged with murder in the deaths of Abby Williams and Libby German, has been moved to one of their facilities. As far as Mr. X being a POI, I disagree, as I also disagree that the Delphi Murders are connected. "Today is not a day to celebrate," Superintendent of the Indiana State Police Doug Carter said. It was unclear Monday whether Allen has an attorney. We must continue to be mindful of their surviving family members and the entire Carroll County community who are affected by this investigation., Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter, The FBI has provided assistance to the Indiana State Police and the Carroll County Sheriffs Office in this investigation and will continue to help in any way we can to see justice done for Libby and Abby. But police did not disclose the cause of death at the time, saying only that the case was a double homicide investigation and the girls autopsies have remained under seal. Carroll County prosecutor Nick McLeland give update on the Delphi murders. Searcher Eric Williams speaks after nearly six years of no justice. Ive probably seen him. I've hardly seen anyone speak about the search party. I wonder if they got IDs of everyone in it or names(obviously he could give a fake one) because wouldnt they know who wasnt local or acted odd or just be able to look into them all to be safe. Yes, thats one thing I am not sure about. I'm wondering if the families were even told about what the scene itself disclosed, or given any details about the crime scene such as; how the girls' bodies were left at the crime scene. So this implies that the two men were alone with each other, surely. It's a development loved ones of Libby German and Abby Williams have long prayed for: charges filed in connection to the Delphi murder investigation. Any theories? The document was written by an FBI agent and describes what investigators found when they discovered the bodies of Abby and Libby on Feb. 14, 2017. And you guys have not given up on us. Rozzi began his arguments by asserting that the documents should be unsealed. We definitely need to look into this a lot further, thats for sure. State Police say Kline admitted using the fake profile to get sexual pictures and videos of nearly 100 underage girls. in which I've ever, thankfully, have had to witness anything so utterly horrible. If I go with the assumption that it might have been a group of searchers that didn't include members of LE, I can't imagine being a member of the community and volunteering to help to search for anyone and then finding the person or persons deceased in probably what was an obvious sign of a homicide(s), especially as someone such as myself who has no LE experience (or medical experience, etc.) In a news conference, Indiana State Police shared Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested Wednesday and charged on two counts of murder during a court hearing two days later. Since then, police have formed a task force for the case, interviewed suspects and followed tips, eventually leading to Allen's arrest. Indiana State Police Id assume the kind that is foggy? At this point, this rumor seems like its proven at least to my satisfaction. Our profession will not allow us to speak on what we think, but to always speak about what we know. If its the same guy I think hes a hunter who worked for Tyson. And its likely that BG did work there, as youve pointed out, since he killed Libby the same way pigs are slaughtered. The FBI also announced that it is utilizing approximately 6,000 electronic billboards in 46 states to solicit information on the case. News of Trexler's arrest comes as Indiana State Police announced they'd concluded a six-week-long search along the Wabash River in Peru, which is believed to be linked to the 2017 murders of best friends Abigail Williams and Libby German. He tells off women in passive-aggressive hostile posts. Any mention from your sources on this Chadwell guy everyone on Reddit is losing their minds over being a suspect? Five years ago today, in Delphi, Ind., two best friends, Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, went missing while on a hike through the city's . Which I'm sure made finding the girls all that worse. I guess it hasnt gotten around the town much. Abby Williams and Libby German, both 13, were murdered. CVS worker Richard Matthew Allen, 50, was charged in October after an analysis concluded a 40-caliber round that was found between the bodies of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams had come from a gun he owned, according to a probable cause affidavit made public Tuesday. On Delphi, I agree with you about Chadwell. Five years after Liberty German and Abigail Williams were killed in Delphi, Indiana, 50-year-old Richard Allen has been charged with their murders. He is a middle-aged man who has thick hair and a baby face and dresses like a teenager. As for McLeland's concern for the safety of the witnesses, Rozzi said, I havent heard, nor have I seen in the evidence presented, any actionable threats.. Privacy Policy. Its like he wants these two tween girls on the cusp of womanhood to remain forever children and sexually innocent and so leaves them surrounded by a childs toys, both as a kind of apology to them, as well as way to announce to the world that he has effectively preserved them as children forever. The teens lived in the tiny town about 70 miles northwest of Indianapolis. And also know if any of the POIs were around that night, right? Officials did not discuss the timeline of events or evidence that led to Allens arrest, saying only that a judge determined that there was probable cause. "And thats the case. Thats not true. (WISH) People in Delphi say the community is far from closure despite an arrest announcement in the 2017 murders of two girls, Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby . Every time one comes up, everybody flips and says this is the guy!! See how people are reading too much into this guy? His FB artwork containing two dripping roses and a skull, along with swirls of blonde hair. Diamond Bynum and King Walker, look that up one day. Unless she time traveled back to 2015-16 but maintained her age, th our math would make her 16 in 2017. Theres a part where the helicopter flies over the crime scene and some people worked forever on that and somehow got some pics out of it. And most of what we have reported is based on solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. We cannot publicly convict someone based on a single document which was not released by investigators. Perhaps its a violation of social rules, but thats not in the DSM yet. Because he seems to be quite the liar to me," she charged. On February 13, 2017, Liberty "Libby" German, 14, and Ab You realize that we have a detective in Indiana who told us that Mr. X is LEs main suspect in this case, right? He has the whole town on his friends list. Im not sure how they phrased it of they told, ordered or threatened them to not reveal what they saw. We also believe that he never lost them in the first place, and they were probably in his pocket the whole time. Where are those people? ", Delphi killings:4 things we learned about arrest in deaths of Liberty German and Abigail Williams. Support the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! "Secrecy of judicial action can only breed ignorance and distrust of courts and suspicion concerning the competence and impartiality of judges, attorneys for the media wrote, citing a Nebraska case. Our understanding also is that he never even called her to have her bring the keys. Looking at Facebook posts from 2017, its clear that he had reddish hair then and that it could appear curly when short. He was charged with a probation violation for driving with a suspended. omygosh what a shame! ", The detective then asked: "So why would you worry about your DNA being on that body? The Peru home he shared with his father, Tony Kline, was raided 12 days after Libby and Abby were found dead. DELPHI, Ind. Rachel Fradette is a general assignment reporter at IndyStar. Its just conjecture," he said in rebuttal to McLeland's argument. In Indiana, most defendants are entitled to a reasonable bail that is high enough to ensure the defendant's appearance in court, according to Indiana law. But definitely I dont know him.". Kline responded. The time will come when additional details can be released, but again today is not that day, Indiana State Police Superintendent Douglas Carter said. We have people in the police who talk to us. The latter seems to make most sense, but leaves the question to why the CSI guy lied to everyone, including his colleagues. The family had trouble finding people to help them search. The chatter rose again after Allen sat down between his attorneys. A public court hearing will be set to determine if the documents, including the affidavit in the case, will remain under seal. Begs the question, WTF were they up to? - Stunning new documents describe the scene where two young girls were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, five years ago. "If he is leading us on another wild goose chase, then that would be gut-wrenching.". About the stuffed animals hanging from the trees. And the girls may well have been moved and put there late at night. Thats how he knew they were going to be there at that date and time. Richard Allen arrested:Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. Based on his posts, he does appear to have some animosity towards young women, and he is an oversharer. The Indiana detectives investigating the 2017 Delphi murders claimed on Thursday to have new leads in the case and warned their suspect that they know who he is - but are yet to make any. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://www.pharostribune.com/news/local_news/article_031b521c-f2e3-11e6-a249-a77587cb24f9.html. It seems odd. He was also charged with similar offenses in November 2021 - a pending case at the time of his arrest earlier this month. | ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Carter added the probable cause affidavit remains sealed. I sure would like to know more about this. Its a much better purchase for your money than throwing money at Hughes and Greeno, for which you get almost nothing in return. So they were alone with each other, supposedly, from ~2 pm to 3.30-4 pm on a Monday afternoon. DELPHI, Ind. In a town like Delphi, no one is innocent. Allen is being held at the White County jail without bond and has hearing dates scheduled for January and March 2023. We now have two search party members who are backing up some of these bizarre allegations. Nearly two years passed before authorities released a second composite sketch in April 2019, this one in stark contrast to the first, which they said more accurately depicted the killer, the Indianapolis Star reported. Carrie added that everything she knows about it, she learned on Facebook. His wife was with BP when the call came to Becky that the girls had been found. Libby was 14 when she was murdered in 2017. However, bond may be granted if the case does not appear to be strong, according to Indiana law. How could that not be a stuffed animal? Regarding Mr X, wouldnt the girls have known him if he were friends with Libertys grandparents? He is a welder and the hat the BG is wearing looks like a welders cap. Sadly these murderers and chomos are a dime a dozen. If these claims of the crime scene condition and signatures left behind by the killer are false, then I have to wonder what on earth the police found so bizarre. Our police sources told us that Mr. X is indeed the main suspect. Will the public interest be substantially served by limiting access?" Only a few seconds have been made public. Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. Allen, 50, was charged on two counts of. He does, as Carter warned, appear younger than he is. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: People are donating lots of money to Delphi podcasters Mike Greeno and Gray Hughes, which is their right. I havent seen the tape but a friend saw it and she said he had a huge smirk on his face the whole time. "I don't want to put too much stock into it until I hear something from law enforcement," she added. Here in Gary, about two years ago, a special needs woman and a toddler she lived with went missing. Also the point about girls being dumped in places frequented by hunters. I will agree with SPM1 who seemed to say that there was a stuffed animal toy at the scene that was so large that BG could not have been carrying it with him on the bridge. The motive is likely to be a lot sicker than that. Well, to answer your question, Mr. X was at that 2019 press conference wearing the exact same hat that BG wears in that film. So if the search started technically in the dark on the 13th, the actual time they had when they could really see anything was from 9 AM to 12 PM on the 14th. He was pretty young and had a lot of children. However, the agent said, These statements were found to be factually false and intentionally designed to deceive LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers).. Then again if it was recent, makes me wonder if the guilt of covering up for Mr. X may have been eating him up inside? When the the girls did not show up for their ride home, Libby's family became concerned and family members started a search that was joined by many in the Delphi community. I think this is one of the essential clues in both cases. -- There may be a potential break in the unsolved murders of two teenage girls in Delphi, Indiana. Keeping the documents secret only heightens the public's curiosity about the case, Rozzi said. At the conclusion of Tuesday morning's 40-minute hearing, Special Judge Fran Gull said she will publish a decision on whether to make public the charging documents and affidavit after reviewing both sides' arguments. Officials weren't sure just how many volunteers came, but sign-in sheets appeared to log hundreds." Please correct me if you know otherwise. Speculation has mounted that Kline may be working on a plea deal with prosecutors, though it's still unknown if the search is related to his child porn case or the Delphi murders. DELPHI, IN - It was Valentine's Day, 2017, when the corpses of two young teen girls, Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail " Abby" Williams, were found under a train bridge. The agent said Logan contacted his cousin and asked him to tell that story before the bodies were found. For safety and security, the IDOC declined to say which facility Allen is being held. During a search of Allen's home on Oct. 13, 2022, officers found knives and guns, including a "Sig Sauer, Model P226, .40-caliber pistol," the probable cause affidavit said. "If it is related, whatever they're looking for, I hope it comes sooner rather than later. We must trust their sources and investigative techniques. If thats the case, wouldnt you think they would have been noticed the first day during the search? As the search for Abby Williams and Libby German ends at a crime scene, the reality of what's happened is worse than anyone could have imagined. According to prosecutors, Kline used a bogus social media profile with the username "anthony_shots" to contact and illicit nude photographs from numerous underage girls. It also hints at the idea that they were meeting someone there, a gift for a date. The girls were reported missing to police at 5:30 pm. Reach Ron Wilkins at rwilkins@jconline.com. The next day, volunteers from the community formed a search party, and found the girls bodies in a wooded area near the trail. Its very (as the kids say) cringe.. Its nice to have a serious conversation without people chiming in with what if BG is a woman? (one thing I actually read this week) and other absurd speculation. Compared to most single men his age, I dont think he has much animus towards young women at all. Prosecutors fueled speculation during Tuesday's hearing that Richard Allen was not alone when they allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams in early 2017. "I don't know what they're looking for it could be a weapon, it could be a laptop, it could be something as small as a trophy from the murders - it could be anything. SPM2 also reported that there were stuffed animals at the crime scene. There was no mention of what type of stuffed animals they were or how big they were. But werent the FBI involved from the start? Its nothing. The basics of personal finance, like How to save for a house. Figure out your next step toward financial freedom. Becky Patty reflected on the importance of Monday's announcement, speaking steadily and calmly, telling reporters she had envisioned a different reaction. What do we do next. He took his wife with him. He certainly didnt sound suicidal in his retirement announcement from Monticello in Nov 2019. In other words, its now proven that more than one stuffed animal was left at the scene. Was it one person who discovered the girls? There were dolls hanging from trees. DELPHI, Ind. The arrest has been long awaited by the families of Liberty and Abigail, as well as for the community of Delphi, which has kept a close eye on the investigation. The search warrant request came just over two weeks after ISP investigators interviewed Kegan Kline, the man they say was behind the Anthony_Shots social media accounts. Just a thought. I dont see anyone refuting these claims besides the people on the internet who werent there and want to believe every single last syllable LE says. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Think about it like this. The two girls had gone for a walk on an old railroad bridge along Monon High Bridge trail near Delphi, Indiana, on February 13, 2017, when they were murdered. She is rumored to have been brutalized more than Abby. Didnt know, I dont know the gentleman personally at all. Ive heard he was not on the other side of the creek at all. Still, the voice of the suspected. Basically nobody in town except a few people who dont like him thinks he did it. . They are both saying the same thing independently, too, and we have no evidence that they talked to each other. For more information, please see our This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. I doubt hes seen that classic film, but girls as flowers is common imagery. Im pretty sure Chadwell is a hunter and fisherman. Thats after he had been at the site for 18 hours after he first lost his keys from 6:30 PM 2/13 12:30 PM 2/14 and then another eight hours from 12:30 PM 2/14 to 8:30 PM on the same day for a total of 26 hours after losing his keys. Radio says his wife is due to be coming to bring him back his keys and please let her in when she comes. is that that damned stuffed animal is as tall as Abby. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. I get accused of that all the time on here, as I pretty much lay my life out pretty bare and naked on here. A massive law enforcement presence arrives, and a double murder investigation begins . 4 things we learned about arrest in deaths of Liberty German and Abigail Williams, What we know and don't know 5 years after Abby and Libby were killed, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. I literally have no clue how that girl died; I don't know anything, anything to do with it. So how did you get the crime scene photo?? Is this confirmed? The killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in February 2017 have . I dont agree that any of these people are grifters as everyone says. Theres a puppy sticking out of the bears collar. The next chapter is now were on to the prosecution side, right? The revelation is included in a nine-page request for a search warrant filed March 17, 2017, a little more than one month after the murders. I suspect he was breeding pitbulls for dogfighting. The police didn't take them seriously at the very beginning. 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