Very interesting. Tracy Ross 3:00 AM MST on Jan 1, 2023. I stopped the pickup and as it went down the incline one shot hit the abdominal cavity and another between the shoulder blades, it crawled about two feet and died. One guy, a native of Alaska (Marty) carried a .22 Magnum revolver. 300 grains is on the low end for 50ae. I believe that model Ruger is single action, right? In Colorado, population estimates range from 3,000 to 7,000 mountain lions. After all that I have come to some conclusions about killing things with a handgun. She hid, and downed it with one behind the ear at very close range, and followed up with five more (all the bullets she had) to make sure. Put three or four gun writers in the same room, and youll usually get four different answers, but I think youre seeing a common thread here. You cant load the right ammo for bear defense, but its better than a sharp stick. Im more concerned with the organized gang activity here in Denver than all of the wild animal encounters in the universe. you spent 6 weeks on the road system not the boondocks If you are in the boondocks whatever that means? Please reply. And maybe just maybe you walk away on the top side of the ground. 8gr 800-X will put some lead into anyones pencil. .38 Special is great . One lion can consume up to 20 or 30 pounds of meat in a single meal. Get as informed as you can, and make the best choice you can. The 30-50 yd accuracy is simple.AMAZING SHOT PLACEMENT WITH POWER. It definitely works. 11-02-2012, 5:06 PM. Now, my colleague and fellow Alaskan Phil Shoemaker has effectively defended himself with a 9mm against a charging brown bear, but I prefer to carry a .45 ACP with me as my round. While out horseback riding, I cant tell you how many rattlers Ive killed rattlers with my 9mm. I will take it to heart and now that Ive learned the 4 3 1 rule Ill not forget it, and not fail to abide by it while in bear country, and quite probably every time Im hunting. coyotes Jaguars range in size from about 100lbs up to 300lbs, run at speeds of 50 mph, and bite with a bone-crushing 1,500 PSI. They are not fun to shoot, not fun to carry. He said none. In fact, a shot from a .357 caliber revolver or a shotgun at close range is more likely to kill a mountain lion than an accidental discharge . Answer (1 of 12): There's a lot of variables in play with this question and a 9mm pistol round is NOT a good round to take down a large predator with. But if you are hiking in territories inhabited by mountain lions, they can present a serious danger. At least .40 caliber, 300 grains and 1,000 fps. Into a wheel gun ! in he he stated that no matter how big of a rifle one has in their hands, when facing something that is fully willing and capable of stomping you into a frothy little puddle of blood and hair, no matter what youve got, its still going to feel like a willow switch. Do you have an animal or nature story to share with Newsweek? They only penetrated a 1/4 of an inch, while the .357 round went through the skull and ended up about nine inches deep in the neck. A couple of quick .25s to the knee of your brother in law ought to make that possible. Sun, Jan 29, 2023. . Fly fishing in AK, and knocking around the woods I often carry a stainless charter target bulldog in 44 special. Take it from someone who has been nose to nose with many big bears by accident if youre going into bear country willingly take as big a double action revolver as you can keep all rounds in the target black. The lion did not attack further and the boys uncle shot at the cat. The mountain lion known as P-56 was killed January 27, 2020. I read with interest the side arms in bear country. My close friend and ex-county sheriff assures me that, unless you are acting like an idiot, most sheriffs here in Colorado will just shake your hand and wish you a good day, IF they happen to see your with a magazine with > 15 rounds. My handloads push a 200gr hardcast bullet to just under 1300fps. A 45 Long Colt? No thanks. At night you may wish a good shotgun and buck shot. They are not a pleasant round to shoot but manageable for me, I have been shooting the 44mag pistol for almost 50 years and have lived in Interior Alaska for 38 years now. Dont immediately dismiss bear spray from consideration. , .357 mag. A shotgun with buck shot would be handy if it is in your yard. 45 & 9mm do not get past the fat layer to break bones and damage vital organs. the reason to own a .38/.357 revolver. I am a handgun hunter who lives in Wyoming and hunts the Beartooth. From the Noatak to Frazier Lake, Kodiak, Ive seen a lot of bears. This is why I prefer my .460 Roland it has compensator for better follow on second shot. Both are excellent sidearms but leave something to be desired when confronting big game in the boonies. Surprisingly, I had to shoot it THREE times in the head, from INCHES away before it died. Carry big. James A. May 23, 2022 / by / in . Im still skeered o rabbies. A farmer living in Lower Lake, in Lake County, noticed the dead lambs last week and notified the California Department of Fish and Wildlife. Any suggestion that a 9mm or 357 magnum is any gun better than none in brown bear country is ridiculous. There are no stopping calibers; only stopping shots. The Marine carried an AR15/M4 .223 REM/5.56MM. I was able to aim and take the shot; it tore me up having to kill that nuisance bear that should have been relocated. Do you have a rare 5-shot model, or just down to your last five cartridges for the photo shoot? What about a Judge or Governor, that can shoot .45 Long Colt or .410 shotgun shells? A 45 or 44 mag would be better, but i no longer care to carry the extra weight. Bear is a bear, you underestimate them at your own peril. I am reminded of a survival show that aired a few years ago. The second shot went CLICK. Im paraphrasing a bit here, but I once read an article by Bill Jordan about a new Weatherby rifle he was about to take on safari to Africa. In this case, fortunately, the uncle had time to retrieve the handgun from a vehicle. It is the gun I used in the American Hunter Challenge Video where I make five hits at seven yards in under three seconds. I mixed opinions about this article. Its the sick, injured, old one that will risk human contact. Join half a million readers enjoying Newsweek's free newsletters. You must have a glutton for punishment! They understood the dangers. A 629 classic 44 Mag. Mountain lions will usually stay within their own habitats and hunt for their own food sources. The experience led me to think about bear, cougar, and moose encounters that can happen on my property. Cork Grahams rig. After feeding on its kill, the lion will cache the prey, or bury it in a secluded spot. Teardrop-shaped toes. If the mountain lion successfully ambushed a wolf, the fight is immediately over, and the wolf is dead due to a pierced skull or ripped throat. I have two dogs and they said that might provoke the bears. the vast majority of industry gun writers are basically shilling new gear and tend to exist in a repetitive echo chamber with little or no practical experience. The Hodgden #25 manual does show loads for a 200-grain bullet using HS6, Trap100 and HP38 powders. Mountain lion study highlights. Put up the fishing gear and settled in for the night. (altho I make and sell them) I want straight line complete penetration best offered by a hard LBT. Related Tags: 540 gr leaving the 7 barrel at 1200 FPS. A neighbor, 1/2 mile away lost some pheasants to one. Brian M.- I also did the same thing with my Glock 21 accept I started with the 45 Super cartridge. Mountain lions actually have the largest hind legs (proportionally) of all the members of the cat family. For the outdoors person a revolver can likewise Id never seen tracks that huge. bear which turned on him. Live in Alaska. you rig will protect you. HSM .45LC 325 grain is a real stopper. Buzz, Just aim above the front tire, through the fender taking out the engine block. in bullet weight and energy. Mountain lion attacks on humans, however, are rare in Colorado, with Colorado Parks and Wildlife counting fewer than 20 over the past 30 years. A Smith & Wesson Model 29, in .44 Remington Magnum completely in the vein of Dirty Harry still makes an excellent choice for the bear woods. bird watching, hiking, backpacking, and enjoying nature. cougars A black bear sow protecting a cub from your invasion of their space will have her way with you till she decides shes done. from the bear. Personally, I do my best to avoid any encounter that could turn ugly, but thats not always the case. Not only is a 45 Colt that is hand loaded right there with the 44 magnum, or even out performing the 44 magnum. You have to be a reloader or know a reloader to get this, but it is well worth it. He normally carries a .44 Magnum but opted for the 9mm that day. The big cats are thin skinned and not that hard to kill. Can a wolf beat a mountain lion? that will allow the bullets to be seated and crimped .100 further out than factory specs. Your bear protection gun is never going to be your regular carry gun, no long afternoons firing box after box it is a single purpose tool. Did they field dress and later skin it ? Question whats your life worth to you. That said, the 4-3-1 is a simple and effective rule of thumb. Local dog hunters said lion are easy to kill and they use a 22lr pistol. This has way more energy and velocity ahah a standard loading and the judge and governor probably would not safely shoot those loads. Then when we were at Cabelas, I compared the photo on my phone to all the cougar mounts and none came anywhere close. .38spl are pretty light loads. Its light and easy to carry.. DRT. Magnum revolver for not only armed defense against both two and four legged Carry the biggest freaking Gun you can shoot very very well ! You go first, Ill watch. We dont know what caliber, make or model the handgun was. Self-Defense, Under normal circumstances, the lion would have returned to eat the prey. After all bears are quite well armed are they not? What would be the minimum barrel length for any bear spanker? Just as with dangerous game rifles, using a cartridge that is too big to allow for proper shot placement isnt a wise idea; shot placement is everything. Like I said before , I wish someone would make a 416 Rem Mag. Traveling with several other people may also help discourage a bear attacking as they usually want the least confrontation unless it is a mother bear protecting her cubs. 480 ruger penetrated steel railroad plates by hitting so hard, the steel cracked and shattered. If I cant do it with that then I guess I was destined to lose that fight. The entire time I was a patrol officer, 5 years, I carried a revolver. I have killed over 140 head of big game in Australia, waterbuffalo, moose, elk, deer, antelope, hogs, exotics, many black bear, and one charging brown bear in Alaska at 5 feet with a hand gun. I can shoot 100rds of 480 in a day, that equals two loads of .44 mag or one shot of casull and none of the 500. Hard cast/ full metal jacket is important in smaller calibers to at least give you penetration. I do reload them hot. He didnt know what kind of weapon was used. Almost no one practices with bear spray and almost no one can get their can to bear (pun intended) and spray within 4-5 seconds. If doing this with very heavy bullets a change in rifleing twist may be more suitable if longer ranges are expected. 9MM hollow points will kill anything in Texas short of a feral hog. Colorado Parks and Wildlife said the man, identified on Thursday as 31-year-old Travis Kauffman, is "recovering well" after the self-defense attack on Feb. 4. Absolutely. You need that big chunk of lead to penetrate deep and crush stuff as it goes. Regarding your story about the two men from California who discharged bear spray in their hotel room in their haste to try it out forcing the hotel to gut and refinish the room entirely, of course after evicting the two Californians. I carried a 454 casull in Alaska heavy l now carry a glock 20 10mm 15 rounds even if I dont stop the bear shooting all the way to the end just makes me fell better. After being carjacked 2 years ago, I WILL NOT be a victim, again. They were highly experienced survivalists. Everyone Practices Cancel Culture | Opinion, Deplatforming Free Speech is Dangerous | Opinion. Even if the game warden had survived, he A mountain lion was mauling her 5-year-old son in front of her. I know there are some folks out there that carry handguns in the bush, but in a dozen years I didnt meet many, either agency folks or sportsmen. Youre just a hokey guy who tries to be funny by putting others down. in bear country. 2018 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included. Schalow was 10 years old at the time. Now I know, what to expect and what to carry. Hopefully, this link will work. Of course, I dont live in Alaska, nor have I ever killed a bear. Since Proposition . However, two of those incidents resulted in fatalities. heat treated WFN LBT now for these situations. Great article, even better advise-44 mag super redhawk will be on my side when the opportunity comes my way. Rifle first if at all possible. So, perhaps .45 colt is NOT the best choice for a bear. I rather be over gun then under gun. @1,3000+ FPS, a 255 gr. Big bears do not get big being stupid around people. Si saw a black bear last year, and got lost running away from it. This one took exception.) Can mountain lions jump? I own several Casulls, but my favorite handgun is a 5-inch, custom Freedom Arms Model 83 that Ken Kelly tricked out for me. Most rangers will tell you a $50. We killed about 5 hogs every week he shot them with 22 never saw any that didnt fall over dead. Ivy. The 357 magnum is able to kill a bear much better then the 9mm and the 38 special even though they actually shoot the same bullets. Its got the velocity, but wonder if it would have the penetration? Wolfe played for the Broncos from 2012-19 and the Ravens in 2020. Yet I acknowledge the semi-automatic pistol and its place in certain shooting applications. A mountain lion has slaughtered 27 lambs on a farm in Northern California but did not eat a single one. Companions showed up shooting to save the day. The bear was hurt so it couldnt run thank God abd CVA. For what its worth, bear spray is likely to get you killed in my humble opinion. In general, 10mm, .44 magnum, or better seems like the best choices (including .454 Casull). In Africa the wholesale slaughter of wild game was done to make room for agriculture and the safety of the farmers many of whom blasted off their feet the entire big game population for miles around. However, I can get 2 aimed shots with my hot 10mm for every one with any big bore revolver Ive ever shot. Lesson learned never keep food for bears in your camp site. Not being a cougar hunter, didnt pay much attention to it. Numerous attacks this summer, to include at least two confirmed deaths. Capable yet not-overpowered, accurate and easy-to-control except in aluminum framed 2" snubnose versions, it remains a solid choice for discrete carry and pleasure shooting days at the local target range. Even with the hottest 460 I find the revolver to be controllable. Even for dispatching While mountain lion attacks are rare, it is because mountain lions are not common, and interactions between mountain lions and humans are uncommon. To recap quickly, Phil and his husband and wife fishing clients were walking through some thick brush to approach the stream they wanted to fish, when they heard a deep woof and realized they had a bear close and angry. When Ruger made a new .45 LC Redhawk capable of firing .45 ACP, I told myself I want one of those. I prefer to carry a .460 Roland built on .45 Colt ACP 1911 chassis. The Southern California man charged with shooting and killing a protected mountain lion this summer has been sentenced to 30 days in jail and was ordered to serve 240 hours of community service in . That wont be possible until my kids are out of college, though. Of the pistols that you listed carry the one you shoot best. There was an Indian woman in Canada out hunting small game for the stew pot with her .22 rifle, when she found herself being hunted by a large grizzly. Year later, shot a black bear same ammo, but out of a desert eagle way better results. No, probably not, but I would feel much better with this gun its easily concealable, doesnt weigh a whole lot, nor take up a lot of room than with no gun at all. Buffalo bore and underwood make fmj,hardcast and exteme hunter ammo. Nope, no way. Plenty of good options in DA revolvers tried and true .44 mag, .454 casull, .460 S&W, etc. Carry the most powerful gun you can actually effectively use. A doe once got a hoof caught in the top of a cyclone fence, near our property. Does that mean my woods gun a .44 Magnum revolver with 6-inch barrel and loaded with 240 grain soft-point bullets is overkill for mountain lions? People living in neighborhoods around Nederland wonder why Colorado Parks and Wildlife can't do more to stop attacks on their pets. Just food for thought Stay safe Brian. I own a 45 Colt Ruger Bisley with a 5 1/2 inch barrel ,among other larger caliber handguns , and it is far and away my favorite for handgun hunting or a defensive woods gun. Fortunately the latter emptied his 4 Smith and Wesson Model 66 My hunting partner puts his faith in the Colt .45, and it will get the job done. Park staff monitor the population through satellite GPS collars, remote cameras and . I decently placed 5.56 will kill anything in north america. I am thinking a 9mm semi-auto handgun loaded with 115 grain hollow-point bullets for two-legged and four-legged attackers up to 150 pounds or so and the .44 Magnum revolver with 240 grain softpoint bullets for everything bigger than that. Plus spray gives you a non-lethal way of dealing with somebody's "loving" pet. If used in a custom 5 shot 45 colt with bullets and a cyl. An official from the department visited the farm shortly after the incident and found tracks belonging to the animal, according to local news reports. black bears I think it was POOR ARTICLE FROM A PERSON WHO IS SITTING IN AN ARM CHAIR MOSTLY AND BASTE ON HEAR SAY. A California man has been sentenced to 30 days in jail and other penalties for the killing of a protected mountain lion over the summer. Next post: AFLoader, the Automated Universal Pistol Magazine Loader, Previous post: Waterfowl Artillery: CZ Swamp Magnum, Your email address will not be published. Mountain lions weigh up to 198lbs, reach 30 mph at top speed, and only bite with a force of about 400 PSI. Colorado Springs, Colo. The craggy mesas and sagebrush valleys of the West have a wild horse problem. State officials have issued a permit allowing a rancher to kill P-45, a mountain lion believed to be responsible for the recent killings of livestock near Malibu, Calif. (National Park Service via AP) Now, the black bear is generally speaking a rather docile creature, and most of the time it will make every attempt to run away from man. Of course you can imagine the hysterical reactions that suggestion creates.. My only proof of that assertion goes back 17 years when I was unkowingly walking my blind dog very near a collared grizzly sow with two cubs. I can say the 41 is probably my minimum for the big bears. and driving a rig your not in the Alaskan brush. When I asked him for his thoughts on carry guns for bear country, Phil related the following: Phil, I have always said that carrying any handgun for bear protection is similar to wearing a life jacket in a boat, or parachute in a plane. A good .357 Magnum and I really like the Kimber K6s will definitely come in handy. Little meat damage and with a WC or Semi WC will certainly do the job. Usually blacktail deer. white-tailed deer Although the species is protected, landowners can request a special permit to catch or kill a mountain lion if it has killed livestock and caused damage. Even I would still rather have a 12 gauge though. They called me to come over and look at the tracks. courage1. .357, .44 mag, 10mm. Id have gladly traded it for a snub-nose .38 Special. Had that sow felt threatened, I wouldnt have known what hit me. Then it rolled over and started walking. A Utah friend of mine called to ask about using a .38 Special with a 4" barrel as a trail gun and a defensive gun in the mountains of his home state. Their large hind legs also make them excellent at sprinting for short distances. Now thats an appropriate comment. One would shoot the bear with a 22 rimfire: often a single shot, while his partner would harpoon the bruin to prevent it sinking. Rocky the dog was left with a hole in his head that went "down to his brain" after he bravely defended his . I have had very good luck with both the 45 colt and 454 with 335gr. Wolves are more of a threat. My 10mm load is right at 700. That said, I wish someone would come up with a good ballistic gel/trauma plate simulated bear and test out everything from .22 LR to all the Dirty Harry stuff, .44 Mag and up. I found it on the Internet in a read only document. or wherever. As most readers are probably aware, a cougar (aka mountain lion) attacked a couple of mountain bikers in California last month [ Outside Online News: January 9 . Same holster also. That winter, I shot a buffalo @ 50 yards with 300 grain federal cast core in a ruger .44 carbine. I agree, a 9mm is not something I would trust. Dont leave your gun in the car. The mountain lion, also called a cougar, is the largest wildcat in North America north of Mexico. Thanx! Changing, yes, but then you look at the ravages of the recent volcanoes and all the CO2 released. Are they prudent, not for me. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Lions or parts cannot be taken out of Colorado unless inspected and sealed. More is always better and the bullet is the key. Until just a few few years ago, the largest bear ever killed was by a young girl in Alaska. LAR Grizzly 45 Win Mag. A single action handgun is not a good choice as a defense weapon in any scenario. Sure, semi-automatics have their place. . Hunting, If one comes onto my property, its dead, otherwise Ill leave them alone, unless of course in self defense. He said not really. I hope you dont take anybody with you in these fantasy hikes with your hair spray. 8. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. As far as I am concerned the best handgun for a person is one they are familiar and competent with. If that is the mountain lion in the background why is it field dressed. No HPs! If you did, you wouldnt be even considering spray or a souped up .32 pistol round as your primary weapon of bear defense Cripes, just go to zoo and imagine the zoo born and/or raised sleeping pile of fur your looking at, being really pissed off at you, or just curious, and has a closing velocity of over 30 mph. sure, sure, sure. The video shows the mountain lion sneaking up around a corner behind an unsuspecting deer and rapidly tackling it to the ground, before dragging it off by its neck. closer than 35 feet heading in your direction should be engaged? All shots were heart lung ,,,edit,, All shots were attempted heart lung. Incidentally I have 2 500 Smith mags, never carry them in bear country. .357 Magnum revolver. Crossdraw holster. Leave bear territory, do a quick mag switch and your back to the right rounds for CCW. Penetration and shot placement are king. The bear biologist was tracking the animals when I stepped out of the woods and she told me how close we were to the bear. 1400+ fpm with a 140-grain FMJ bullet out of a 4.5-inch barrel. Inside the house, condo, apartment, or indoors such should Lightweight and well-balanced, I had a chance to spend a bit of time with this wheelgun at the SHOT Show in Las Vegas. to a .22 or .32 the .38 Special 148 grain lead target wad-cutter is ideal for these purposes. My rule of thumb is the minimum is 4-3-1. The compilation lists 61 mountain lion attacks that resulted in injuries in the 16 and a half years, and at least 31 cases where attacks were thwarted by aggressive action. More than half of those were fawns. When they were hunted with dogs in the 1950s and 60s, many were shot with .22 rimfire cartridges from both rifles and pistols. This may not have been a great time for firearm but it begs the questions: (1) What's a good caliber to stop a cat at 3 - 20 yds, and (2) what kind of round (solid, hollow point)? My resulting theory is that if you see the bear/cougar, draw your gun and do your best to avoid the encounter. I shot that bear in the mouth without breaking a tooth on him cause he was popping his jaws whilst standing on his back legs trying to get thru the fence. I think that the 480 Ruger is a real sparkling over looked gem. They have been most noted in the mountains of California but had, at one time, been found across North and South America. Its very light and handy to carry. An old farm fence stopped the bear at 11 yards and gave me the chance to get that cap on. A good read but I dont really see the top handguns to carry. Mountain lions dont have a reputation for requiring powerful firearms to put them down. For those not familiar with this gun, think Dirty Harry. The .44 Magnum is definite bear medicine. Option to use 45 colt 454 cas and 460 mag. Same applies to the Redhawk if you insist on a DA. The next stage of the disease results in paralysis. I was helping a friend butcher a hog he had raised. Too many horses, the federal government says, are crowding the scraps of . And its usually charging you in a self-defense situation where youre trying to penetrate all that meat, gristle and bone in the way of its vital organs. While attempting to release the Grizzly an accident occurred with the bear on top of A friend who guided in Alaska and the northwest, that experienced a number of charges over the years, told me that at 300 yds, a well placed 06 round would do the job, at 200 yds a 300 Win. If so, what is the problem? I carry my Ruger SP101 357 on me always, and when camping, I have my 45-70 close by. Its a gun I have confidence in when Anyway, Ive had my share of sleepless nights in a tent in Alaska and try to heed to basics keep food well away from camp, cook away from camp, dont camp on trails, avoid cubs like the plague, if approached give ground, etc. Underwood now has a 230grain all copper extreme hunter load at 1700fps. Unlike grizzlies, black bears seem to be much less predictable and do not give as many signals huffing, grunting, ears back, etc. The range of a Mountain Lion may cover 25 to 785 square miles. I have several 44 mags a .41, .45 Colt and 8 different .357s in various types and the 329PD is lightweight and with the 225s is heavy medicine for bears. First shot went wild as the bear clamped down on his forearm and shook him. I love packing iron, but in a 44 mag, 300 grain load minimum for bigger critters. If I had not shot the hog with a .44 Magnum I think it would have ended very badly. Picture yourself on your back with a bear in your face and you trying to fight him off with one hand and reaching for your gun. The only real downside is there is not a good rifle to go with the 10 mm. First you start off by saying a Judge or Governor is not what you want for bear country, then end by saying you carry a Redhawk in .45 Colt for bear. There is nothing wrong with the cartridge. I always heard all you need is a .25 auto. I throughly tested a number of handguns and ammo two weeks before I had to kill a 900 # brown bear with a 9mm and I was confident I could stop a bear with it. where do you come up with this bullshit. You need to shoot a few of the +Ps every Spring to remember where they are hitting. Most of the time if all you are trying to do is keep the bears from attacking you, wear bells on your clothing as the old timers did. He shot it twice point blank with his 9mm and the hog just shook its head and continued to walk around. Commander. My point is I would have given $1,000 for any back up gun 38 or bigger. I carefully googled this story using the locationImpossible to find any story that confirms that what you said id true. 45acp . into camp look for a meal in the ice chest. If there is any wind at all, the fog will only travel about 3 feet before it turns and drifts in the direction of the wind. Poisons, like these rodenticides, harm lions. 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